September 2009 - Just found out this page was spammed with viagra ads and other stuff. Cleaned the database and really disabled data entry (the HTML form was hidden, but the php code was still active). Also "antispammed" contributors' email addresses.
15 july 2002 - I have removed the form to add any new info, because I don't have enough time to take care of this page (it didn't really needed that much attention, but anyway...) and because the new mroocheck.driver will probably render some of this information obsolete, and I don't want to go through the hassle of updating all this :-}. Also, I'm no longer a mroocheck user since almost one year. This page won't change anymore. Thank you for coming :-).
22 december 2000 - (this is old news but..) Apparently with my mouse and
the current driver, it is just impossible to get left wheel movements correctly.
I mailed Elbox a long time ago, but got no answer. They must be busy talking with
the P96 guys I guess.. (ah aaaaaaahh)
Reduced the table font size, changed some colours (I know they suck anyway ;-));
added some info (signaled by [new]).
04 october 2000 - There is a new Mroocheck.driver available, with more parameters to play with.. I did not manage yet to get the left wheel movements with my mouse, but I'll try again. ;)
First, see Mroocheck.driver v1.5 ReadMe. Be sure to register as explained in the readme, so that you get new versions of the driver when they are released.
My experience with Picasso96 and an A4Tech(-like) 4D Mouse model WWW-5:
In order for the two wheels to work perfectly, AGA must be in 15kHz (the ENV variable
"Picasso96/AmigaVideo" must be set to "15kHz") and you must run Mroocheck.driver like
this:
Mroocheck.driver FREQ=16
At least that's the case on my system (PAL).
If AGA is in 31kHz, running Mroocheck.driver with FREQ=31 is not sufficient : LEFT
wheel movements are recognised as DOWN movements; DOWN is also frequently triggered
instead of UP.
Using FREQ=32 improves a lot the recognition of UP wheel movements. But LEFT wheel
still doesn't work.
The driver produces strange results when it is run in the WBStartup drawer (no matter what STARTPRI is set to) or in the user-startup : RMB does not work or is triggered randomly/continuously, and wheel down movements are sent continuously. It does work when run after the boot or at the end of the startup-sequence, just before EndCli.
[new] I *guess* that the problem happens when the driver is loaded before P96 sets the AGA output to 31kHz...? (that is to say, before the WB is open, probably)
Mouse movements are sent about 25-30 times per second, not 50 times like it is with a real Amiga mouse. [new] So the pointer is jerky.
[new] Here is the explanation sent to me by FreeWheel's author, Alastair M. Robinson :
You mentioned the Mroocheck only appearing to report about 25 times a second instead of the Amiga's 50: This isn't really Mroocheck's fault - the problem is that some idiot chose a baud rate of only 1200 for PC mice - so for a wheel mouse (which has to report 4 bytes per event), you can't get more than 30 reports a second.
Thanks, Alastair ;-)
French-speaking people : allez voir sur la page de CptBLOOD pour d'autres renseignements.
Brand | Model | Connector type | Works ? | # of buttons | # of wheels | Left handed | Wire/less | Approx price (EUR) | Comment | Contributor |
A4Tech | 4D Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | NO | 3 | 2 | No | Wire | 30-40 | CGX4 + AGA 31 KHz doesn't work at all (MroocheckCal gives impossible results). CGX4 + AGA 15 KHz is disappointing : left/right is fully working, but up/down stay frozen ! I am NOT happy for the time being :-( | Kaminari |
A4Tech | 4D Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 2 | Unknown | Wire | 10-20 | Tomcat | |
A4Tech | 4D Trackball | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 2 | No | Wire | 10-20 | Use this Params to use it under P96 at 31khz-0=41 1=58 2=75 3=150 4=34 | Woody |
A4Tech | 4D Trackball | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 2 | No | Wire | 10-20 | Works great ! | TurboLaban |
A4Tech | 4D WinEasy | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | NO | 3 | 2 | No | Wire | 10-20 | the wheel down movements stay on. | Kuni Yoda |
A4Tech | 4D WinEasy | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 2 | No | Wire | 10-20 | The mouse works with Mroocheck correctly, if you set FREQ=16 and PARAM2=40. This works good for my Amiga, but was not tested on other Amigas. It seems that the wheel down movements will no more stay on!? | smily B;-) |
A4Tech | 4D | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 2 | No | Wire | 10-20 | It works fine and it's damn fast too!!!! | Stryker |
A4Tech | 4D+ Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | NO | 4 | 2 | Unknown | Wire | 10-20 | Anonymous | |
A4Tech | 4D+ Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | NO | 4 | 2 | Unknown | Wire | 10-20 | Robek | |
A4Tech | 4D+ Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 4 | 2 | No | Wire | 10-20 | I does indeed work, and is a darn good mouse at that! | Dave |
A4Tech | 4D+ | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 4 | 2 | Both | Wire | 20-30 | The only difference with the 4D I found using it is apparently the 4rth button. | Stryker |
alk | airmouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | NO | 5 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Anonymous | |
Ares | Airmouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 4 | 2 | Both | Wire | 10-20 | 'Wheels' are actually a joystick-type-thing | A.M. Robinson |
boeder | p-16+ | Serial | NO | 4 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | severinemer3.at.aol.com | |
boeder | intellimouse | Serial | NO | 3 | 2 | Unknown | Wire | Unknown | Anonymous | |
boeder | p-16 | Serial | NO | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Anonymous | |
boeder | P-20 | Serial | NO | 4 | 2 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Anonymous | |
BOEDER | Sm@rtmouse Original - Reorder No. 65 301 | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 2 | Unknown | Wire | 20-30 | The MROOCHECK+mouse package don't work very well if I use my "auto mouse-joystick switch for Amiga-Atari". 520 dpi. | D. Domínguez |
Compaq | Standard | Serial | NO | 2 | Unknown | Both | Wire | 10-20 | Didn't work with punchinello at all | MashMan |
Genius | NetScroll+ | Serial | YES | 3 | 1 | Both | Wire | 10-20 | Work OK WITHOUT loading of driver (but no wheel movements). Driver make crazy m | Nazir |
INTouch | MUS6S | Serial | NO | 2 | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | 0-10 | Only moves Left and Right and not up and Down | Lee Cook |
Kensington | 19420 | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 1 | Both | Wire | 0-10 | Works fine! | Andreas.franz.at.arcormail.de |
Kensington | 6421 | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | NO | 2 | 0 | Both | Wire | 10-20 | Brad | |
Logitech | Cordless MouseMan Wheel | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 1 | No | Radio | 50-75 | up/down sometimes triggers left/right (fixable via the driver, I would think) | Oliver Roberts |
Logitech | Cordless MouseMan Wheel | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 1 | No | Radio | Unknown | Wheel button quiet sensitive - up/down sometimes trickers left/right | Mick |
Logitech | Cordless MouseMan Wheel | PS2 (Logitech adapter) | NO | 2 | 1 | Both | Radio | 50-75 | USB/PS2 Works Perfect under WIN 2K | $P()()K!3 |
Logitech | Cordless Mouseman Wheel | PS2 (Logitech adapter) | YES | 3 | 1 | Yes | Radio | 50-75 | Work very good | Francfort Nicolas |
Logitech | Cordless Mouseman Wheel | USB/PS2 | NO | 3 | 1 | Yes | Radio | 50-75 | NOTE: the USB/PS2 version of this mouse DOES NOT WORK. Get a PS2/Serial one instead. | Daniel Eriksson |
Logitech | Cordless Wheel Mouse | PS2 (other adapter) | NO | 3 | 1 | Both | Radio | 30-40 | Work with reciever from Logitec Cordles MouseMan Wheel | Eddie Keller |
Logitech | Cordless Wheel Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 1 | Both | Radio | 30-40 | Calibration must be done with MroocheckCal; wheel down sometimes triggers wheel left. | Daniel Eriksson |
Logitech | First Mouse + | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 2 | 1 | Unknown | Wire | 30-40 | All buttons and wheel work fine. | Aes |
Logitech | Marble FX | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 4 | 0 | No | Wire | 40-50 | Everything works with punchinello, 4th button acts the same as third | MashMan |
Logitech | Marble Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 2 | 0 | Both | Wire | 30-40 | Works fine. | Opi Poi |
Logitech | Pilot Wheel Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 1 | Both | Unknown | 20-30 | up/down trickers left/right | Eddie Keller |
Logitech | Pilot | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 0 | Both | Wire | 20-30 | Everything works with the punchinello | MashMan |
Logitech | Pilot+ | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 1 | Both | Wire | 20-30 | Everything works with punchinello | MashMan |
Logitech | TrackMan Marble Plus | PS2 (Trust adapter) | YES | 3 | 1 | No | Wire | 75-100 | Very smooth ball & wheel and reliable operation with Amiga OS3.9 ! | Sorel Goldenberg |
lr | mus6s | Serial | NO | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Anonymous | |
Microsoft | Intellieye | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | NO | 5 | 1 | No | Wire | 40-50 | Did not work at all, no power supplied for sensors | MashMan |
microsoft | intellimouse trackball | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 2 | 1 | No | Wire | Unknown | very nice works perfectly trackball, mouse buttons and wheel | Mr D.Payne |
microsoft | intellimouse trackball | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 1 | No | Wire | 20-30 | one of the only trackballs with wheel, big ball | christian |
Microsoft | Mouse Port Compatible Mouse 2.1A | Serial | NO | 2 | 0 | No | Wire | 0-10 | It dose work in the Early Startup Sequence, but in the system it wont work at all? | DrSound |
Microsoft | SRM-7362 | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 5 | 0 | Yes | Wire | 30-40 | A High quality mouse built by us | HuCon |
Mitsumi | ECM-S3101 | Serial | YES | 2 | 0 | Unknown | Wire | 0-10 | gRubBy bAby | |
mitsumi | ew4ecm-s3101 | Serial | NO | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | i want that mouse driver | nay |
Qtronix | lynx 30 | Serial | NO | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Unknown | Anonymous | |
QTronix | Lynx 3D Net | Serial | NO | 3 | 1 | Both | Wire | 20-30 | The Amiga boots in the bootmenu even with no mouse press. Doesn't work at all | Yure |
Qware (a4tech) | SimpleMouse4D | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 3 | 2 | Both | Wire | 10-20 | Very nice mouse, though my Amiga's mouse connector seems to be bad :^( | Milan |
Vivanco | MSR 60 | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | NO | 3 | 1 | Yes | Wire | Unknown | simexi.at.hotmail.com | |
Vivanco | Wheel Mouse | PS2 (adapter sold with this mouse) | YES | 2 | 1 | Both | Wire | 20-30 | DuncanRace.at.hotmail.com |
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